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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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is it lefties that get cancelled in your reality Nobby?


Explain to me which polictical party supported Boris being banned from parliament and has the most seats.

The right wing call them boycotts when they do it and cancelling when anyone else does.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 07 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
to v or not to v wrote:


is it lefties that get cancelled in your reality Nobby?


Explain to me which polictical party supported Boris being banned from parliament and has the most seats.


A Left-Wing party obviously Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 04:40 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is the BCF's massive opinion on the political lean of BCF?

I would hazard a guess as a little right of centre.
But with decent respect for leftist ideas.

Fairly even.
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:


Explain to me which polictical party supported Boris being banned from parliament and has the most seats.

The right wing call them boycotts when they do it and cancelling when anyone else does.


please point me towards a right wing political party Nobby.

all i can find is left and farther left parties.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There's free speech and there's the spewing of bile, bigotry and hate. I support the former.


thank you, just proved my point.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyway. It's all going to be settled in trial by combat, so we have that to look forwards to.

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Islander
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
Anyway. It's all going to be settled in trial by combat, so we have that to look forwards to.

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Musk is toast. If he actually goes through with it. Laughing
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Islander
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Islander wrote:

There's free speech and there's the spewing of bile, bigotry and hate. I support the former.


thank you, just proved my point.


So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?

I think my own point has been nicely proved. Laughing
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to v or not to v
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?

I think my own point has been nicely proved. Laughing


yes. its called supporting free speech.

not your newspeak version of free speech which is- im a truly liberal and enlightened individual, but only as long as i like what your saying.

to be honest, that seems like feminine thinking to me, where feelings trump all else.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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influencers...god i hate that name...more like liars and shills...anyway...


OT but anyways, I may have a mission for you soon

Standby for further updates, depending on how a situation evolves.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?


Who gets to define what "hate" is?
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Islander
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Islander wrote:


So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?

I think my own point has been nicely proved. Laughing


yes. its called supporting free speech.

not your newspeak version of free speech which is- im a truly liberal and enlightened individual, but only as long as i like what your saying.

to be honest, that seems like feminine thinking to me, where feelings trump all else.


And equally your version sounds like typical self justification. You want the right to free speech? Absolutely fine by me, but remember that with rights come responsibilities. Balanced criticism of systems is absolutely fine. Bigotry and hate isn't.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Islander wrote:
So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?


Who gets to define what "hate" is?


The ones with the loudest voice at the time.....

At present thats blacks and the alphabet soup people. It'll change when this phase wears off.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Islander wrote:
So you support the right to spew bigotry and hate do you?


Who gets to define what "hate" is?


Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:


Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.


Boris johnson could have easily put a law through saying Support for Scottish nationalism, is hate speech and shut down, then you'd be wanting your freedom back
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Islander
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Fzs wrote:
Islander wrote:


Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.


Boris johnson could have easily put a law through saying Support for Scottish nationalism, is hate speech and shut down, then you'd be wanting your freedom back


Ah resorting to 'appeal to extremes' eh? Desperate stuff Laughing

But to answer it, that would not be proportionate. It would probably have failed and would most likely have been overturned by the judicial system.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.


So politicians and people who write dictionaries. Nice. The world is now safe Rolling Eyes
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Rob Fzs
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:


Boris johnson could have easily put a law through saying Support for Scottish nationalism, is hate speech and shut down, then you'd be wanting your freedom back


Ah resorting to 'appeal to extremes' eh? Desperate stuff Laughing

But to answer it, that would not be proportionate. It would probably have failed and would most likely have been overturned by the judicial system.


Bit by bit it could easily have been done, once Labour take over Scotland again because the SNP has been pocketing the funds, it wouldn't surprise me if independance comes a dirty word and a few of the extremists push it too far and you do end with it just being a bigotry thing like English nationalism
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Absolutely fine by me, but remember that with rights come responsibilities.


youve been watching Spiderman havent you Laughing
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Islander
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Fzs wrote:
Islander wrote:

Ah resorting to 'appeal to extremes' eh? Desperate stuff Laughing

But to answer it, that would not be proportionate. It would probably have failed and would most likely have been overturned by the judicial system.


Bit by bit it could easily have been done, once Labour take over Scotland again because the SNP has been pocketing the funds, it wouldn't surprise me if independance comes a dirty word and a few of the extremists push it too far and you do end with it just being a bigotry thing like English nationalism


*cough* Appeal to extremes... *cough*
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Islander wrote:
Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.


So politicians and people who write dictionaries. Nice. The world is now safe Rolling Eyes


TBH I'd prefer those all day long to some of the hyperbole spouting alternatives... Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:

There's free speech and there's the spewing of bile, bigotry and hate. I support the former.


The snag now is, just expressing an honestly held opinion is too often instantly labelled as hate speech, racist bigotry etc etc

JKRowling for instance
never read any of her books but did read what she wrote after the
hoo hah and couldn't make out what the fuss was about in any rational way.

None of the leftys seemed to jump to her defence when she was
inundated with vile threats.
Black people who hold more centre-ist or conservative (small c ) views are 'not real black'

A lot of these leftys look more like fascists to me with their intolerance of counter views, debate and discussion.

Spineless Kier Starmer can't/wont say what a woman is and
dont get me started on the scottish national socialist party
the Tories are too busy stabbing each other in the back

I fuckin hate politicians cant we just have some folk good at doing their job FFS
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Easy-X wrote:

Who gets to define what "hate" is?


Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.

https://sfcmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/liberal-hate-1.png
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Islander
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Islander wrote:

Lawmakers generally do. Here's a starter for ten though...

hate speech
noun
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social group or a member of such a group.
A term for speech that attacks or disparages a person or group of people based on their social or ethnic group.

https://sfcmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/liberal-hate-1.png


What's your point here? Hate speech is hate speech. You could equally produce the same sort of quotes for any group.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 08 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What's your point here?

You know my point, it was tolerated for many years in one direction on twitter. Musk seems to want more of a free-for-all in terms of debate anyway.
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