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Posted: 19:27 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: Lap of the country for National autistic society |
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www.rideforautismgb.co.uk
Hi Every One : )
We are doing a lap of the country starting the first of September. Rather than this being a mental feat of endurance, all though we will be averaging 300 miles a day, this is more about a cruise of the coast and as many people coming along for different bits as we can get.
Full details are on our facebook page and our website, if you fancy joining us for a stretch whether thats 10 miles or all 4000 drop us a line either on facebook ( https://en-gb.facebook.com/.../Ride-for-Autism-UK/144989788995067 ) or our website and we would love to see you on the road.
All we ask is for a small donation on just giving
https://www.justgiving.com/RideForNAS/eurl.axd/b9bb4df93a3b1f468a76df3d5f8ee474,
then feel free to turn up on the day ! So if you know a good spot on the coast, a nice chippy, or a good bit of road drop us a line, we will tell you when were in the area and feel free to bring your friends. Any one on 2 wheels is welcome !
Cambridge - Kings Lynn - 1st September
Kings Lynn - Whitby - 1st September
Whitby - Dundee - 2nd September
Dundee - Golspie - 3rd September
Golspie - Ullapooll - 4th September
Ullapool - Fort William - 5th September
Fort William - Dumfries - 6th September
Dumfries - Southport 7th September
Southport - Holy Head 8th September
Holy Head - Holy Head 9th September
Barry - Bude 10th September
Bude - Dartmouth 11th September
Dartmouth - Hastings 12th September
Hastings - Harwich 13th September
Harwich - Kings Lynn 14th
Kings Lynn BMF tailend Ride in 15th
Meet ups - any were on the coast between these destinations is possible - drop us a line
See you on the road !
Paul
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Posted: 19:38 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: Re: Lap of the country for National autistic society |
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First off, you seemed to have missed a [/b] tag and not noticed - your entire post is bold!
Anyway, so... you are having a holiday 'for autism' .
Bit of a weird concept, that.
Further, you are getting companies to give you goods, services and possibly money in aid of your holiday?
Nicely blagged!
I'm hoping to spend a bit of time in France with my motorhome later in the year - if I do it 'for charity', do you reckon I'll get Triumph to give me a free bike to ride on my holiday as well? |
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Posted: 19:45 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: HOLIDAY ?? |
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Your entitled to your own opinion but think you have got the wrong idea, they helped me just trying to do some good in return.
This is all for my boy who is an autism sufferer and a chance for bikers to get together and do some good
If i wanted a holiday i would be sunning it up some were for 2 weeks ! This is all to raise awareness for a charity that done right by me. I was gave a bike to do the ride on and recieved money towards expenses to ensure that every penny donated from the public goes to the charity and I feel that was the right thing to do besides half the costs are straight out my own pocket ! |
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Posted: 21:06 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: |
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Paul, I'll be honest here, I can see what it is you are trying to do. Without knowing your particular circumstances, I can even understand why you are doing it and I honestly hope you raise loads for the charity.
However. One of the first rules of marketing - which is what you are doing here - is to know your audience.
You have done a google search, seen the bikechatforums link, thought "hey, they like motorbikes, I'm riding a motorbike, I'll get them in, brilliant!" which admittedly, sounds logical.
Thing is, people aren't that simple. To a lot of us, a 4000 mile ride around the country is a holiday. Something all of us would gladly pay for ourselves. To us, doing a thing for charity means doing something difficult or unpleasant, for a significant time, experiencing real hardship. Swim the Thames like David Walliams. Do the journey John Bishop did, ride from Paris, row across the channel, then spend four days running to London. Hardship. Pain.
Gentle ride in summer around the country? Bit of a sore back maybe and yeah a ballache to organise, but hardship?
If you were to walk around the country wearing full motorcycle leathers (including helmet) then yeah, I reckon a lot of us would get behind you, because we know exactly how much of a bastard that would be.
You have just signed up and blurted out "Motorbike, kiddies, gis some money". Honestly, we see it a lot. Why pay you to do something we all have to pay to do?
Make sense? ____________________ The Old Apprentice |
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Posted: 21:25 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: Re: HOLIDAY ?? |
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Paul Newman wrote: | This way I reach a lot more people and raise a lot more awareness. |
If you want to 'raise awareness', how about you spend that two weeks doing activities that cost you very little, maybe some that actually earn money, to raise awareness?
Things, maybe, like directly related to raising awareness; telling people about it, rather than riding a motorbike?
Glad to hear you're camping; I hope that's wild camping?
If you think we are 'getting the wrong idea', perhaps you need a more robust explanation of why this really is the best way to help a charity, when for many others it sounds like a fun jolly?
If I went, say on to your facebook wall and posted up "I'm going to Ibiza for two weeks to support and raise awareness of this charity, please donate, advertise me for free to your friends and so on", would you question it at all? Of course, thanks to the publicity, I'd be getting corporate sponsors to cover the costs wherever possible.
Would it be ok because I'd put a lot of hard work in to it?
Would people criticising just be 'getting the wrong idea' trying to 'vent their own pessimistic views'?
Also, your facebook link in the first post is broken. |
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Ahh. And for a while you were doing so well.
"If you don't support my charity you are a pedo/arsehole/kittenslayer/wanker". My advice would be not to post anything else in this thread and just read what will undoubtedly follow. ____________________ The Old Apprentice |
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How about raise money by putting your fuel money in there, sitting down and watching Corrie.
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Posted: 22:07 - 06 Aug 2013 Post subject: |
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It depends how you see it.
You are hinting that this is an activity you will 'enjoy'; and you are getting things provided for it.
I don't see why 300 miles on a comfortable touring bike should be a lot for anyone? For some couriers it may be an easy day's work.
You ask/state 'why can some one not do something they love to do some good.' I believe I asked about the same.
Why can I not have a holiday to Ibiza and raise some money and awareness at the same time?
(Actually, I'd probably consider this more arduous than riding around the country - I moved away from Essex as soon as I could - but let's ignore that.)
If you are firm with your conviction that what you are doing is a worthy proposition, surely you must be able to respond to my point?
Does saying "I'm just trying to do a little good" and the like justify my view point that others should support my holiday?
There has been a sea-change in relation to the way 'charity' fund-raising has been done over the last twenty to thirty years.
I'm pretty sure this is due to corporate marketing organisations realising they can maximise their profits if they get the public to cough up for other members of the public to do arduous rather than enjoyable things.
It's seen massive profitability for these businesses. Not always so much for the charities using them.
So yes, people these days accept paying for other people to have a jolly because it's "for charidy".
Yes, yes and no in relation to your questions.
You say you're trying to 'raise awareness', yet the charity you are raising money for and it's work aren't mentioned bar the name, if that is the name in the subject.
Missing your point? Well, here we have a lot of people that have found the forum on google and decided it'd be an excellent place to promote their holiday which they're asking people to donate money to a charity for the sake of them going on it.
It's a subject I've thought about a fair bit myself.
If you've also thought about why this is the best way to raise awareness and money for your cause, I'd expect a robust explanation.
I would not expect the need for snide comments.
Do explain who you feel is posting to make themselves* better and how you know this?
(*When trying to sell yourself, a grammar and spell check are both worth while.)
Are you going to be wild camping?
Incidentally, a member on here managed to raise a significant amount of money for a group trip she was going on.
Ok, it was no doubt 'who you know' to some degree.
They weren't trying to piggy back an enjoyable trip on 'charity', for a start. More, they offered 'rewards' in a kickstarter fashion to those who gave money. Plenty gave money without requesting the rewards it seems, but plenty also effectively 'bought' their cookies.
And, as with kickstarter, some of them were actually fairly good value - you were paying the right sort of market rate, while supporting their effort.
A much better business model to my mind. |
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Posted: 21:00 - 07 Aug 2013 Post subject: Re: spudly |
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Unfortunate that it seems the OP hasn't thought through this apparently quite big endeavour enough that he can answer a few questions when asked.
Which is, of course, why I'm rarely impressed by such endeavours .
So, if you're still lurking there - g'wan, do give it a go answering some questions about it - I still want to know if you think it'd be ok for my Holiday to Ibiza to be sponsered?
The more I think about it, the more I think I'd be the one having the arduous time, frankly! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 289 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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