France driver shooting..

[A100man]

Hmm, not sure I'd be driving off with a gun pointed at my head by Paris Plod - especially since they have a rep for taking no prisoners in these event (already shot 13 drivers in this way)..

Macron though has already declared plod guilty before any investigation, mitigating circs have been evaluated.. He seems to be losing control .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66038227
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[stinkwheel]

It sounded like a clear case of fuck about-find out to me.

But as NI has showed, apparently just because you drive away from/through an armed checkpoint while someone is telling you to stop and pointing a gun at you doesn't mean you should expect to be shot. What exactly you do expect to happen is just one of those big unanswered questions.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

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Suicide by cop as far as I can see. What was he expecting, a chicken kebab and a hearty handshake?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Suicide by cop is usually a him or me situation.

In 5his cas the cop was not at risk and nobody else was at obvious and imminent risk because he was trying to drive away from them.

Failing to stop for the police isn't grounds for summary execution. Shooting someone at point blank range is generally lethal.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

If a copper has his finger on the trigger of a gun while resting his arm on the car you’d better not move the car.

[Nobby the Bastard]

The whole point is that the copper shouldn't be pointing a gun at you with his finger on the trigger if you aren't a direct threat to someone's life and limb.


At best it smacks like poor training. At worst, power trip.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

It was a 17 year old kid. Why does colour make a difference?

Where was the direct threat to life and limb that required lethal force?
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[MCN]

NTDWI either.
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[Abaaba]

You can't have trigger-happy police becoming judge jury and executioner - if the kid (yes he was 17, not a lot of 17 yr olds make the best of decisions) was trying to harm someone then you can understand it but minor traffic stop should NEVER escalate to fatal...... The police were meant to be trained professionals.

[Nobby the Bastard]

Seems most of the people protesting are white and are pissed off about a kid being executed for a driving offense rather than mussies or brown people.

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[Ste]

That's the peaceful part of the protests, burning and looting stuff happens elsewhere.

[Nobby the Bastard]

There weren't many brown or mussie people in Wales two weeks ago either.
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[Ste]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Nobby the Bastard]

[grr666]

Liberals protesting and getting all shouty is what liberals do, always in search of a cause and being offended
on someone else's behalf because they think it makes them appear virtuous, they are also black belts in
whataboutism. I doubt it's the same people setting cars on fire at 2am. This dude was known to the Police and
had a history of failing to comply. If he had done as he was told he would not be dead. Was this Police or
Gendamerie? The saying "fuck about and find out" has applied to the Gendamerie for as long as I can remember.
They also have different codes of conduct to the French Police.
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[A100man]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Pretty sure potentially endangering pedestrians doesn't really reach the bar for summary execution.
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[MCN]

[Easy-X]

Would this event have happened if massive amounts of non-French people hadn't been recently imported? I'd argue not.

Is that racist? Absolutely! You can have racism and social cohesion or no racism and no social cohesion.

Choose.

<edit> doh! autocorrect
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[grr666]

https://thegoodlifefrance.com/driving-in-france-be-aware-of-the-rules/

The minimum age for driving in France is 18. So little dindu isn't off to the best start. Not that this was his first offence.
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[Easy-X]

You can pass laws and issue edicts but you can't mandate people will respect them. "They'll respect the barrel of the gun!" Apparently not
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[Polarbear]

It's just an excuse for 'what can we loot today'

Protesters attack Nike store in central Paris

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-66062542
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