Muslims kick off over cartoons

[Wooly R6]

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ALL TOGETHER NOW

" I FEEL LIKE MUSLIM TONIGHT..... MUSLIM TONIGHT"



WE SHOULD REALLY START TO KICK EM FUCKING DEAD NOW!!!!!
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[sanchezz_182]

lol he has fans everywer.
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no sig, thats gay!!

[cagiva gezzer]

I own paint.
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[McGee]

Fucking pieces of shit.
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Its pronounced Jixxer!

[Rookie]

It's hard not to call them 'savages' and alike when they're represented by that sort of mentality. Some cartoons, and they're preparing the C4 already.

[Wooly R6]

ANOTHER NICE ONE
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[Crazy Manx Man]

Tempermental bastards.

[plugger147]

although this is proberly irrelevant it looks to me like all those signs were wrote by the same person, then given out to people.
Is that inciting racial hatred or not?

[Retro-Man]

Not going to get in to a debate but take heed my prediction

by the year 2015 there will be major world conflict between the west and islamic countrys, who will be the agressor remains largely unclear, but what is clear to me is that this war will be fought on islamic religous grounds and will no doubt change the face of the world as we know it.

The only way this catastophic war will be avoided is if islamic extremists are either removed or have some fundamental change in their own beliefs, there is a fundamental incompatibility between western freedoms and the extreme end of the scale regards islam that can never be reconciled.

you may disagree, and argue but this is my honest belief, if I'm wrong I will come back in 2015 and apologise.

https://www.nostradamusonline.com/
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[sanchezz_182]

could go on for hours.
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no sig, thats gay!!

[XS1954]

The protests do suggest that the cartoons were right. If anyone insults us we will kill you.
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[Mister James]

[Mister James]

[Spiral]

I feel sorry for the innocent muslims in the west as their main religious leaders and their press organisations are obsessed with fighting, bigotry and segregation of the muslim people from non muslims.

https://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/

Just have a look at some of the storys, this is supposed to be a non extremist site that covers storys about hamas as if it were the lib dems.

just look at the links

Campaign on Terror (might as well put Campaign on Islam)
Democracy (bloody joke)
Election (crap about hamas)
Human Rights ( they treat women as second class citizens)
Islamophobia (? is this a word)
London Bombings (still bragging about this)
Media (download propaganda)
Nuclear Weapons (they want these)
Racism (obsessed)
Ramadan ( )
Religion (enough already)
Sports (camel jockeys and stuff)

Something very wrong here!
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[Knowlsey]

more like

[Spiral]

A bit more on the story

The Dominion Post

The precious right of freedom of speech
04 February 2006

Modern society rests on the contest of ideas, the ability to question perceived wisdom and to challenge authority, The Dominion Post writes in an editorial.

Without that contest, and the right to free speech that makes it possible, societies stultify and become entrenched in their beliefs. That freedom to question and to challenge must include the right to be offensive, to affront people's most heartfelt beliefs, even to disparage that which they hold sacred. Otherwise it is an empty freedom.

Our decision to publish the 12 cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed from the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten (Jutland Post) at the centre of the escalating row between the Muslim world and the nations of the West is not one that the newspaper has taken lightly. However, in the clash of values at the centre of the dispute not to publish because of fear of disturbing the sensibilities of Muslims would be to give way in the face of bullying threats. That is what Muslims are seeking to have the Western democracies do with their threats of bombs and trade boycotts.

There is no doubt that Muslims find the portrayal of the Prophet offensive. The Koran is clear that the slander and mockery of Islam and prayer crosses a sacred boundary, and warns that those who cross that boundary will be hurled into "crushing disaster". Mufti Abdul Barkatullah, a member of the British Muslim Council, calls it a no-go area at any cost, adding "the Prophet is held above everything in the universe, over one's own person, family, parents, the whole world. It is less offensive to condemn and vilify God".

That is certainly true – for Muslims.

However Denmark, and the other countries where the cartoons have been reproduced, including in Britain by the BBC and in newspapers in France, Switzerland, Spain, Italy and Germany, are not Muslim countries.

They are democratic, secular countries which are not ruled by religious dogma, whether it be Muslim or Christian.

They have the same values as New Zealand, which includes the right to free speech in its Bill of Rights. There is an acceptance that people can write and say what they wish – except in tightly defined circumstances – even if others are offended by it, and that being shocked can be part of the price for being informed.

The Muslim case is not helped by the hypocrisy when it comes to respecting the religious values of others. No doubt many fundamentalist Christian Americans find it deeply offensive for their country to be constantly labelled the Great Satan.

And, as the German newspaper Die Welt pointed out when it published one of the cartoons, "when Syrian television showed drama documentaries in prime time depicting rabbis as cannibals, the imams were quiet".

There have been earlier cultural confrontations between the West and a resurgent Islam, beginning with the death sentence pronounced in 1989 on author Salman Rushdie for The Satanic Verses, and including the murder in 2004 of Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh after he made a film dealing with violence against Islamic women.

They are confrontations the West cannot afford to lose. The right to freedom of speech is a precious one that has to be defended.





You have to think these things through and although it is light hearted fun alot of people will find it offensive and some of those people are very radical.


Quote:
More Dom Post
What the cartoons were about
04 February 2006
By HANK SCHOUTEN

The cartoon series appearing on this page that sparked a global controversy was commissioned and published by a Danish newspaper as a deliberate challenge to Muslim insistence that their religious feelings must be given special consideration.

The drawings were commissioned by the Jyllands-Posten (Jutland's Post) to accompany an article on self-censorship and freedom of speech after Danish writer Kare Bluitgen was unable failed to find artists willing to illustrate his children's book about Mohammed for fear of violent attacks by extremist Muslims.

Islamic teachings forbid pictorial depictions of Mohammed.

The cartoons were published on September 30 with an explanatory article by the newspaper's culture editor, Flemming Rose.

The following is a translated summary of the article and explanation of the cartoons published in the Internet encyclopedia Wikipedia.

"The modern, secular society is rejected by some Muslims. They demand a special position, insisting on special consideration of their own religious feelings.

"It is incompatible with contemporary democracy and freedom of speech, where you must be ready to put up with insults, mockery and ridicule.

"It is certainly not always equally attractive and nice to look at, and it does not mean that religious feelings should be made fun of at any price, but that is less important in this context. [...] we are on our way to a slippery slope where no one can tell how the self-censorship will end.

"That is why the Jyllands-Posten has invited members of the Danish editorial cartoonists union to draw Mohammed as they see him."

Forty artists were invited to give their interpretation on of how Mohammed may have looked. Twelve responded.

Clockwise from top, here is A brief explanation of each cartoon, as pictured at right, left, is given clockwise from the top.

# The face of Mohammed as a part of the Islamic star and crescent symbol, his right eye the star.
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# The most controversial drawing shows Mohammed with a bomb in his turban, with a lit fuse and the Islamic creed written on the bomb.

# Mohammed standing with a halo in the shape of a crescent moon.

# An abstract drawing of crescent moons and Stars of David, and a poem on oppression of women. In English the poem could be read as: "Prophet! daft and dumb, keeping woman under thumb".

# Mohammed as a wanderer, with a donkey.

# A nervous caricaturist, shakingly drawing Mohammed while looking over his shoulder.

# Two angry Muslims charge forward with sabres and bombs, while Mohammed addresses them with: "Relax guys, it's just a drawing made by some infidel South Jutlander". This is a reference is to a common Danish expression for a person from the middle of nowhere, which is how many Danes regard South Jutland.

# An Oriental-looking boy pointing to words on the blackboard reading in Danish "the editorial team of JyllandsPosten is a bunch of reactionary provocateurs."

# The boy is labelled "Mohammed, Valby school, 7.A", implying that this Mohammed is a Danish second-generation immigrant rather than the man Muslims believe was a prophet. On his shirt is written "Fremtiden" (the future).

# A drawing showing Mohammed with a knife and a black bar over his eyes and flanked by two women in burqas.

# Mohammed standing on a cloud, greeting dead suicide bombers with "Stop, stop, we ran out of virgins!" an allusion to the promised reward to martyrs.

# Danish writer Kare Bluitgen with a stick drawing of Mohammed and an orange on his turban over the caption "Publicity stunt". An orange in the turban is a Danish proverb meaning a stroke of luck.

# The centre cartoon is of a police lineup of seven people, with the witness saying: "Hmm ... I can't really recognise him." Not all people in the lineup are immediately identifiable. They are: 1, a generic hippie; 2, politician Pia Kjrsgaard; 3, possible Jesus; 4, possible Buddha; 5, possible Mohammed; 6, a generic Indian guru; and 7, journalist Kare Bluitgen, carrying a sign saying: "Kare's public relations, call and get an offer."

Some of these cartoons had previously been published in the newspaper without drawing major significant criticism.

In the wake of strong protests throughout the Muslim world, the paper's editor-in-chief, Carsten Juste, apologised for causing offence.

The paper's website carried the apology and explanation for its actions in an item headed Honourable Fellow Citizens of the Muslim World.

Mr Juste said the Jutland's Post was a strong proponent of democracy and freedom of religion.

It also respected the right of any human being to practise his or her religion.

The cartoons were published as part of a public debate on freedom of expressions.

"In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologise."

He dismissed suggestions that the drawings were part of a campaign against Muslims, "adding that offending anybody on the grounds of their religious beliefs is unthinkable to us."
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[m99dws]

Seems like a huge waste of police time and money monitoring that protest. If we had banned religion a long time ago we could probably have saved the state a few quid.

Threats like those shown should be classed as treason, so should at least be deported.

[lilredmachine]

Precisely, if they don't want free speech, change the law for 10 days (should be enough to deport them all) then change it back again

What I don't get is that the cartoons were printed in Denmark, by their entire free press, yet our shitty government (who just, i would like to remind you, lost a vote to outlaw the very same thing) say it was the wrong thing to do, and is demanding an apology... WTF?? Hasn't being beaten down in the vote told them they should belt the feck up?

You know what, we should march through the midle of their streets with signs saying death to muslims, then see what happens.
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[Mister James]

Quite a long article from the Telegraph, but raise a few interesting points. I'll highlight the good bits in bold for the slow-of-reading.

[Spiral]

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[Retro-Man]

The line to draw is quite simple.

To recall a well known phrase, "I don't agree with what you want to say but I will fight in order to give you the right to say it"

The muslims in question have the right as we do to protest against what they have found offensive, however to issue death threats and offer violence is unacceptable.

challenging/disagreeing with an idea/ideal is different to directing a vebal/physical attack at any given person.

Many a jehova's witness will come in to your home and spend hours in topical discussion, attempting to convince you of their faith, on leaving they will shake your hand bid you good luck and move on to the next door..

the extreme muslim faith is unable to comprehend such mutual respect.

the irrefutable fact, proven by recent muslim outbursts is that on the whole they have no respect for our rights and beliefs, they are unable to comprehend peaceful co existance. they hold no value to any human life which is not dedicated to islam.
As such however hard liberalists try there can never be any reconciliation between the 2 ways of life without a fundamental change in islamic beliefs.
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[NSR125-Kid-UK]

I take it my point has been neatly proved .
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[yorkshirelad3]

Watching this develope has really pissed me off, in the group of young lads i knock about with there is pretty much 10 full on racists, nig nog this, coon that, giggaboo the other and it really pissed me off,

However i think im starting to turn! Roght now im thinking fuck em all. How dare they march down the streets of a COE country and demand we all respect them! They would not respect us in the same way, i would support a march with signs saying 'death to islam' just because it would prove how this fucked up country, no sorry government works.

This labour government supports everyone bar the honest british born caucasian! And even more so that as a member of the only race on earth that cant be discriminated against (young, hetrosexual, caucasian male, with no mental or physical disabilities, with a job!) they do notm support me in the same way.

Only 3 years ago, a fight in Rotherham took place between a British lad and an Asian lad (now i know i stipulated British, thats because the Asian lad was an imigrant not born here) In the fight the Brit got stabbed and the Asian was just assulted. The Brit was charged with Assult with Racial Intent, the Asian was let off with a fine! Apparently he was provoked!

Now that brings up another question as to why the fook was he carrying a weapon on a night out?

In my honest opinion, kick the fuckers out now! Fuck free speech because it doesnt exsist. Not until someone stands up to these idiots and teaches them that you cannot cry about everything, fair enough if the cartoons had said, Muslims, kill them all they might have grounds for being upset!

Sorry for the rant

[Teaman]