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 Groove World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 23:24 - 17 Jan 2008 Post subject: I never get affected by anything, till now...Update |
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Well im usually the most laid back guy you will ever meet. Nothing has ever phased me in lifes decisions. Nothing has ever seem to bother me. I dont get angry or sad much, just usually a jolly guy. Now though, ive just heard the first thing to make me stop and think.
My ex/fuckbuddy/best girl mate is pregnant, which is aparently mine.
Thats pretty fucking scary stuff.
I can tell she wants it, though shes only 18 and crap pay. She said its my choice though, which for me is good but i cant make the decision on my own can i?
I couldnt afford to bring up a kid, im only 19 myself, just got a loan for a bike and still living at home with only an low to average payin job (less than £20k). The most important bit of it though is, im pretty sure i dont want to be with her.
She said if she was to have it, i can have as much or as little to do with it as i want. Isnt there a minimum you have to pay though if your not together? I have no idea on the workings of child upbringings!
I would love a kid later in life, but i want to live my life before bringing up another!
Im just a bit confused at the moment. Random tired rambalings from a kid who dont want to tell his parents what hes done I dont even know the point of posting this, just had to get it off my chest i spose?
Oh well, thanks for listning.
Shes having a scan twomorrow and im seeing her this weekend, so ill let you know on the outcome.
I think i know what the answers are going to be, but what would you do?
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heavy shit.
i'll think of you next time the idea of sex outside a stable relationship appeals.
I cant give any advice, but hope you make the right decision, whatever that is.
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| Dave McCool |
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 Dave McCool World Chat Champion

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Run for the hills.
Nah, seriously, there's no solid advice anyone can give I wouldn't have thought, it comes down to what you and her want. Ultimately, it is her decision, consider yourself reasonably lucky (even if you don't feel it) that she at least seems to be bringing you in on this. Although this does mean there's a good chance she'll be dragging you into it when it gets difficult.
Is she sure that it's yours? I'd be very certain of it if you're considering paying child maintenance fees...
If neither of you feel ready for a kid, I say this to everyone in this situation and no bugger ever listens, consider having it adopted. Give the little'un, and some desperate wannabe parents, a chance. You might just make their lives. ____________________ McGee - "When I go to the mall and see all the high school girls, I have to have DO NOT TOUCH THE GIRLS written on my hand. Every time I go to grope I see it and stop."
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| TUG |
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Only takes a second to put a bloody rubber on mate. Fucking hell.
DNA test here you come.
If it was me mate i would of used the protection, then if she got pregnant anyway, i'd bring the kid up as my child, because thats what i would like if i was born, a father, and a mother a family regardless of age.
If your not gunna take resposeability for your actions keep it in your pants.  ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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Unfortunately that was a chance you took with neither of you using contraception.
Ultimately the decision as to what happens now is hers, but if she does continue with the pregnancy then if I were you I would insist on a DNA test as soon as possible after baby is born.
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The thing that strikes me is that you say *apparently yours*. Do you doubt it is? If you do, you need to clear this up fast. You will end up resenting her and the baby otherwise, and if you did make a go of it, that's no way to start a relationship, especially since you are not sure you want to be with her anyway.
If you are honest with her and tell her you don't want to be with her, you mjay find she has an abortion anyway- she may have been hoping for the happy ending with you.....
You are doing the mature thing by asking for advice, but I have to say I'd not want to go through having a child at the age of 20 again, it's a long hard road to travel, and it changes everything. Speak to your family too, I hope you manage to work things out, best of luck to you. ____________________ Shona |
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bah ,
DNA test when its born , if its yours , take responsibility and give her 1/4 - 1/3 of your pay cheque else the CSA may impose something MUCH worse on you.
You live by then pork sword you die by it.
Not to generalise but almost ALL my mates from school/college were trapped like this, the first GF they met invariably got pregnant , it was usually very shortly after he decided to get rid of condoms and she went on the pill, and conveiniently forgot to take it for a week.
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I bet we see you on Jeremy Kyle in about 11 months.
Be prepared to sell up on a lot of things to fund it.
Gonna have to stop acting like a kid now and do some serious growing up, kids are not toys, they are human beings so require a huge responsibility.
That's why at the moment, I use protection.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Me and my missus had a scare a couple of weeks about, we were both shitting bricks for want of a better phrase. All was ok in the end though, she was just getting worried over nothing.
I'm 19 too, so she's both at uni, you've got to abort it or you'll be ruining your life before it's truely begun. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but you'll be ruining both your lives and it's really not worth it. You'll both have plenty of time later on in your life when you're both in stable employment/relationship(s).
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 D O G World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 10:58 - 18 Jan 2008 Post subject: Re: Im a guy that doesnt get affected by anything, till now. |
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My ex/fuckbuddy/best girl mate is pregnant, which is aparently mine.
Thats pretty fucking scary stuff.
I can tell she wants it, though shes only 18 and crap pay. She said its my choice though, which for me is good but i cant make the decision on my own can i? |
Hmmmmm. Your choice to have it terminated? She is the one who has to have it done. Have no illusions, the doctor will try and prevent the termination, it will not be easy forcing her to go through with it.
I had a similar scare about 6 years ago (jesus is it really that long!), my missus (who I am still with) was pregant. We had only been together four months. I was effectively insisting on a termination, we went to the docs and everything, but they were really obstructive.
My lady didn't want to have it done, and I had pretty much decided to not force her. Then she miscarried. I think the stress had a lot to do with that.
If you do decide to go for the termination, then it will not be easy.
| Groovearmada wrote: | She said if she was to have it, i can have as much or as little to do with it as i want. Isnt there a minimum you have to pay though if your not together? I have no idea on the workings of child upbringings! |
Its gonna be difficult determining how much you have to do with it - you will inevitably feel responsible, and, depending on how much of a cunt you are prepared to be, you will feel compelled to take care of your child.
| Groovearmada wrote: | I would love a kid later in life, but i want to live my life before bringing up another!
Im just a bit confused at the moment. Random tired rambalings from a kid who dont want to tell his parents what hes done  I dont even know the point of posting this, just had to get it off my chest i spose?
Oh well, thanks for listning.
Shes having a scan twomorrow and im seeing her this weekend, so ill let you know on the outcome. |
If this is a 20 week scan then you are cutting it fine for a termination, as the limit is 24weeks. Such a late termination is fucking nasty as far as I'm aware - I think it may even be a surgical procedure.
If I was in your shoes, I would try and have her terminate. Its selfish, but you sometimes have to be. You will have learned a very important lesson.
If that is a no-go, you need to man the fuck up and take responsibility for your actions. That means assisting fully in the bringing up of the child. Money is no substitute for involvement.
This is not the end of the world, it can be worked through. Just think, by the time you're 38 the child will be independent, and you can enjoy your life whilst others are grappling with toddlers.
Good luck. |
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I had an idea for a buisness, 'Frozen Pops'.
A mobile sperm collection bus as it were, some private cubicles to produce with wipe clean LCD TV's, laminated girly or manly mags and a cup. I'd give you £20 for your time (theres money to be made in fluid).
After a little more research the major problem is that the register for sperm donors is no longer secret or autonomous, this then means that if you'd donate some sperm that then produces in a child, in theory you may then be liable for support and financial upbringing of that child as it may be traced back to you by a paper trail.
Whether you are in or out of the relationship with the young lady then you do have a responsibility and should provide something for their future.
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 Kal World Chat Champion

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| Itchy wrote: | DNA test when its born , if its yours , take responsibility and give her 1/4 - 1/3 of your pay cheque else the CSA may impose something MUCH worse on you. |
Wrong. It is 15% of net pay. So if i clear a grand then I give my Ex £150 towards the upkeep of our son
As an aside things like random clothes (every so often I go all soft when out shopping), Vouchers for shoes and food when we are out together are seperate from that.
Right, scanning down the thread I seem to be the only person here who can tell you the worst case scenario for all of your options.
You can
Walk away, and always know you walked away on your Child. V. Hard to live with.
Have the chld terminated. Nearly destroyed me at 25
Split with the girl, fight in courts and spend an MV Augusta in Court fees during the first year. Wind up seeing the child once a month for between three and five hours. Try not to think about it too hard between visits.
I can tell you now that whatever you do WILL be the wrong thing, so you'd better get comfortable with that right now. Regardless of what you choose to do it will close doors to you that will never be open again.
Also you need to make a decision soon, real soon the longer you leave it the more pysched out your FB will get even if she does like you right now.
If you choose to be there. Then be there, you don't have to gdate the FB just be friends with her and be supportive where you can. #
Get your name on the BIRTH CERTIFICATE
By the way, that kicked in the balls feeling dosn't go away - you just get slightly better about dealing with it.
The only thing you can do is clear your mind of everything, not the easiest thing to do right now and then make a decision.
Now might be the time to speak with your family, it may be your parents will have some good advice for you, or at least be able tio give you the emotional support you need right now.
Whatever you decide I wish you good luck.
Oh and for all the sanctimonius people bashing the poor kid when he is already knocked down
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| Kal wrote: |
Wrong. It is 15% of net pay. So if i clear a grand then I give my Ex £150 towards the upkeep of our son |
I did say MAY , although somewhat anedotal I've heard of some horror stories , quite a few came up at the reunion I had last year.
EDIT I just had a look , it says net pay, ie after tax , doesn't consider ANY out goings at all.
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Depends , some people think condoms are good others IUD etc, however 110% effective is my personality, years and years of being gunned down by women I like and not being in a long term relationship oh for years now, has made me completely undateable and thus my genes are utterly doomed. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 17 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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