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R04CH_R1D3R L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 19:11 - 25 Apr 2024 Post subject: Starting problems with my CG-125 (2004) bike, unable to work |
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To start, this is my first created post/topic on this site, I have a basic understanding of bikes and cars and I rarely use technical terms in describing issues and diagnosing things so I may seem naïve or silly to some but I will do my best to explain
Okay so now that's out of the way I can explain my predicament...
My father bought me a CG125 (2004) bike last month with just over 9000 miles on the clock. It was stored at a friends warehouse for a few nights until I finally got my license and the insurance, tax and MOT were all sorted out so I could officially ride it home. At the warehouse I did a little test ride around the car park and slowly became more confident riding it, there were no major issues to report but it did splutter and cough occasionally in first and second gear or at a complete stop and set in neutral. It also did cut-out completely a couple times but immediately restarted.
After leaving the warehouse/car park and following my father home, the bike for whatever reason just would not go in to the higher gears I was basically just stuck in first gear. After a couple of miles contemplating on what to do, the bike completely cuts out and dies on me, unable to restart and get it moving again. I broke down on a busy, slight inclined hill and having to push that b*tch up the hill damn near killed me lol.
My father and I spent some time looking the bike over at the roadside, we checked the fuel, looked at the spark plug, checking for any connection issues or power surges from the battery, choke positioning and the air filter but we couldn't find out why the bike died all of a sudden.
I am of the opinion that it could be a battery issue which can be easily fixed or something is just completely bwarked internally which would be the worst case scenario.
Ideally I would like to save myself £180 and not have to take it to a shop and to wait another month for it to be looked at. I can spend time looking at it myself and learn more about the bike than spending money unwisely.
If anyone can ease my heart ache that would be greatly appreciated. ____________________ R04CH_R1D3R |
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Posted: 19:51 - 25 Apr 2024 Post subject: |
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When you say it won't go into the higher gears, do you mean when you select the gear it wont pull away in that gear or it physically won't select the gear? If it's the latter, what does the gear lever feel like? Is it solid or does it feel like it's moving to select the gear and not picking it up?
A quick sanity check because you're a new rider, have you been trying to ride it about with the choke on and flooded the engine and/or sooted up the sparkplug
Does the engine turn over with the electric start?
How did the end of the sparkplug look? Was it brown, white, black? Was it sooty or oily? Wet or dry? Is there a spark when you turn the engine over with the plug removed but connected and held against the engine casing?
Has it got petrol in it? Is it coming out of the tap if you disconnect the hose and turn the tap on?
A new sparkplug is never a wrong thing to do. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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I'm still not sure we're clear on the whole engine turning over thing. If it's turning over, when you press the starter the engine will go "RRrrrRRRrrrrRRRRRrrrrRRRRrrr". If it isn't, there will be no noise or an electronic clicking noise.
If it isn't turning over, it's not a problem with your carburettor. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Evil Hans wrote: | R04CH_R1D3R wrote: | The previous owner had modified the clutch and/or the gearing in such a way that it wouldn't switch in to gears on it's own and/or malfunction at low or high revs. |
I'm still trying to work out what this bit means. You do know that this is a manual bike and won't 'switch gears on its own' ?
I'm totally confused about what the issue is. And I still don't know if it turns over.
OP, could you recap the situation? |
I'm still wondering if he's been to work yet or is still 'unable'.. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Evil Hans - Please read the entire thread again and try to understand it properly, it'll save me having to live through the torment again! I haven't got enough hours in the day to recap the entire situation mate.
Listen pal , I'm not that mentally handicapped (yet) and of course I know the CG 125 is a manual bike, I have been riding bikes for years on my grandads private land and my dads lot so I've learnt the difference. I'll explain to you in the simplest and direct way I can over text on a screen; basically the previous owner made adjustments or alterations to the gearing on the bike, I'm going to assume it's because at the time when she made them, her riding ability was pretty bad along with her gear shifting. I also think that because of this, repair work must of been done as a safety net for any future calamities, who tf knows?
A100man - Funny man, I work 6 days a week, got a child to look after and I'm getting married next year. Easy for you to sit behind a screen and talk absolute hog wash, init? I'm still wondering if you have a life or you just live in cave somewhere or you were just born with half a brain...
- If you were sarcastically referring to working on the bike we haven't had much chance to properly look at it and I was hoping by making this thread it would of been helpful but it has been anything but that.
Nobby the Bastard - not a clue mate lol. ____________________ R04CH_R1D3R |
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Posted: 22:33 - 01 May 2024 Post subject: |
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R04CH_R1D3R wrote: |
Listen pal , I'm not that mentally handicapped (yet) and of course I know the CG 125 is a manual bike, I have been riding bikes for years on my grandads private land and my dads lot so I've learnt the difference. I'll explain to you in the simplest and direct way I can over text on a screen; basically the previous owner made adjustments or alterations to the gearing on the bike, I'm going to assume it's because at the time when she made them, her riding ability was pretty bad along with her gear shifting. I also think that because of this, repair work must of been done as a safety net for any future calamities, who tf knows?
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It still doesnt make sense, 'mate', because its neither easy or useful to do something like that.
Is the gear lever slipping on the shaft, just locked solid or moving the shaft but not changing gear?
Actually, wondering if you have a siezed engine... ____________________ trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
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R04CH_R1D3R wrote: |
A100man - Funny man, I work 6 days a week, got a child to look after and I'm getting married next year. Easy for you to sit behind a screen and talk absolute hog wash, init? I'm still wondering if you have a life or you just live in cave somewhere or you were just born with half a brain...
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Thanks - I pride myself on my humour and I as it happens I do also admire the troglodyte lifestyle so bang on there! Brain capacity as yet unresearched.
That all said I think the chaps and I remain mystified as to the nature of your problem. Is the gearing issue (apparently the work of a previous lady owner) related to the sudden cut out and how? You rode it around a warehouse with 'no major issues' but then kaput. too many unanswered questions.
Perhaps let us know where you are - I for one will get from behind my screen and take a look. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Could be a problem.. not much motorbike knowledge on IoM.. still if our friend is still having problems come June I'll pop in. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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